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    Good ol' liberalism

    How could anyone possibly vote for a liberal? Following is an article that typically portrays liberalism. Thank God I wasn't there, or someone would have to forcibly remove me from this idiot's neck.

    BRAVE NEW SCHOOLS
    'Have sex, do drugs,' speaker tells students
    'Men with men, women and women, whatever combination you would like'

    By Bob Unruh
    © 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

    A guest speaker at an assembly at Boulder High School in Colorado has told students as young as 14 to go have sex and use drugs, prompting school officials to say they will investigate.

    The instructions came from Joel Becker, an associate clinical professor of psychology at the University of California at Los Angeles.

    "I am going to encourage you to have sex and encourage you to use drugs appropriately," Becker said during his appearance at the school as part of a recent panel sponsored by the University of Colorado's Conference on World Affairs.

    "Why I am going to take that position is because you are going to do it anyway," he continued. "I think as a psychologist and health educator, it is more important to educate you in a direction that you might actually stick to. So, I am going to stay mostly on with the sex side because that is the area I know more about. I want to encourage you to all have healthy, sexual behavior."

    WND also has reported on similar assemblies that have been used by schools to promote homosexuality, including one where parents were banned from the event, and a second where WND reported school officials ordered their 14-year-old freshman class into a "gay" indoctrination seminar after having them sign a confidentiality agreement promising not to tell their parents.

    The Boulder school review promise came from board members who were confronted by Boulder High sophomore Daphne White and her mother, Priscilla White, with their complaint about the event.

    Priscilla White told board members it's inappropriate for such a message to be delivered by a public school. She was reading excerpts of the presentation to the board when board President Helayne Jones told her to stop, because the language was inappropriate.

    "The panel discussion was a completely irresponsible and dangerous invitation to Boulder High students to have sex and take drugs," her daughter, Daphne, told the board.

    No student should have been forced to be at that panel discussion, incoming Boulder Valley Supt. Chris King agreed.

    The panel included Becker; Andree Gerhardt, a community engagement leader with Ernst & Young; Antonio Sacre, an LA-based performing artist, and Sanho Tree, of the Institute for Policy Studies in Washington.

    They were assembled for the discussion as part of the university's Conference on World Affairs, which has been described as a forum for anything.

    Conference leaders issued a statement, signed by conference director Jim Palmer and others, saying the panel members talked "candidly and sensibly to the high school audience, providing cautionary information about alcohol consumption, drugs, sexual issues and teens."

    The sophomore, Daphne, had been required to attend the panel called "STDs: Sex, Teens and Drugs," and accused panel members of presenting one-sided views and discrediting abstinence.

    The White family said the conference statement wasn't even accurate.

    "The panelists irresponsibly advised Boulder High students to have sex and use drugs," the family responded. "Teenage abstinence was dismissed as an unwise choice and indicative of religious hang-ups."

    "It may be true that the Conference on World Affairs generally 'fosters awareness of local, national and global citizenship and celebrates intellectual discussion and excellence.' It did not in this case," the family continued. "As Daphne suggested at the [recent] school board meeting, Boulder High School, the school district and the CWA should host an assembly at Boulder High for the student body. Hopefully the principal, the deputy superintendent, the board president and the director of the CWA would use the opportunity to offer Boulder High students some sound advice that is more consistent with what teens should hear from adults. They need to do it quickly, graduation is June 2."

    Fox News' Bill O'Reilly said Boulder already is known as a "far left" town.

    He played a recording of an "unidentified male" saying: "We all experiment. It's very natural for young people to experiment with same sex relationships. When you are 13, 12, 13, 14 certainly probably one of the most appropriate sexual behaviors would be masturbation. Even today, there are psychiatrists who will do sessions under the influence of ecstasy. If I had some maybe I'd do it with someone, but you know."

    The transcript obtained by WND showed those comments also were from Becker.

    Dan Caplis, a lawyer and radio talk-show host on KHOW Radio, said the principal should have been fired, but wasn't.

    "We had the president of the school board on, as well as the head of the school district. And they just kept dodging us. Finally, we pinned them down and we said don't you agree this was harmful, this was dangerous? Finally, they agreed to that," Caplis reported.

    "These experts came in to undermine and contradict everything most parents at that school are trying to teach their kids about sex and drugs. And I believe that a lot of those parents are ready to fight back. But we'll find out in the next few days," Caplis said.

    "Perhaps we should open a new wing of the high school and name it 'The Young Brothel Wing,'" wrote an unidentified contributor on a local blog.

    Added Louise Benson, on another: "The attitude towards the Whites and the wildly left-wing agenda at BHS as represented by the amazing thinking that a panel encouraging sex and drugs would be just fine is one reason families are fleeing public schools.

    "The culture wars really are in full swing in schools," she said.

    Zelda, on her "Sleeping Ugly" blog, said parents need to be informed and candid on issues with their children. Addressing the panelists, she wrote, "You, on the other hand, could be a pervert who gets his jollies by talking about sex with minors. And another of my responsibilities as a parent is to make sure you don't have access to my kids until I know for sure you don't have an ulterior motive."

    Her conclusion? "Strike 7,867,960,071 against public education."

    The conference was begun in 1948 to discuss international affairs, but has expanded to become a conference, as it describes itself, on "Everything Conceivable."

    Past participants include Henry Kissinger, Yitzhak Rabin, Eleanor Roosevelt, Ted Turner, Arianna Huffington, Ralph Nader and George McGovern.

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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    that's not liberalism...that's just stupid


    however, anytime yall see something you don't like happening, it has to be b/c of liberals

    so i guess im gonna have to take the same stance...the men who beat and raped a girl in Knoxville voted Republican, so I guess by your logic we all have to assume it is the ideology of all Republicans that it is ok to beat and rape women...heck, ask Bill O'Reilly
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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    i agree its stupid, w/the approach all he is trying to do is not glamorize sex, drugs, and rock and roll. I mean some of those commercials the gov spends money on are a joke. The truth is one thing, but trying to scare viewers by changing facts about stuff is just lies. Even if that lie was said to try to protect the viewer.

    The same can be said about conservatives who are arguing to stay in the war yet call democrats athiest.
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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    Okay that has to be the largest exercise in stupidity that I have ever seen.
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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    This is a prime reason why I have a problem following politics and understanding politician's motives. What we have here, in my opinion, is an attempt by a school district to try something new to get some points across about very controversial topics. As the leader of a school district, would I have scheduled stuff like this? Absolutely not. Why? Because I have bills to pay and I need my job. As an educator, I understand why they chose to address the topics the way they did. Our county hauls at-risk students to some of the surrounding correctional centers in the hope that they may be able to see their future if they don't straighten out. The TV political gurus (who are, in my opinion, a step below Jerry Springer) use the time to bash the other, rather than addressing the problems, which in this case is sexual activity and drug use in teenagers. I can almost see them start off with this one specific incident and then migrate to the differences in domestic affairs, foreign affairs, strategy on the course of the war, etc. I think we all have seen that at some time. What is left out is the discussion of the original problem.

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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    Maybe by them encouraging it they're hoping it will act as reverse psychology, or maybe if they start trying to do drugs or have sex then the parents will step up and set them straight when they likely wouldn't otherwise.

    I dunno--I disagree w/it too...I'm just trying to understand this cat's motives. Just tossing those suppositions out there.
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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    Might have been reverse phycology but I think they could have handled it a little better.
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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: aphrodite4evermore</div><div class="ubbcode-body">reverse phycology but I think they could have handled it a little better.</div></div>

    with reverse psychology you have to handle it the opposite of the results you want to see. how would you handle it better if you were using reverse psychology.
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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: vthokie22</div><div class="ubbcode-body">that's not liberalism...that's just stupid


    however, anytime yall see something you don't like happening, it has to be b/c of liberals

    so i guess im gonna have to take the same stance...the men who beat and raped a girl in Knoxville voted Republican, so I guess by your logic we all have to assume it is the ideology of all Republicans that it is ok to beat and rape women...heck, ask Bill O'Reilly </div></div>

    Liberalism, stupidity...one and the same. If you actually understood the fundamental differences between conservatism and liberalism, then you would see that such actions are blatantly liberal. No way would a true conservative espouse such views and spew such rhetoric. BTW, your Knoxville comparison is very stretched and actually, it's not germaine to the article. But hey, that's the way you whining libs do things.

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    Re: Good ol' liberalism

    hahahahha...i'm seen some conservatives that didn't have sense enough to stick their finger up their a$$ with someone helping them guide it as well....
    ...And if you ain't down with that, I got 2 words for ya....

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